tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post3970667892777204292..comments2023-08-15T12:30:01.302+01:00Comments on Mike Garrett's blog: Another hint that the Kepler system KIC8462852 is probably not harbouring an advanced alien civilisation. Mike Garretthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15781748862183093666noreply@blogger.comBlogger113125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-69740430500490216122016-01-23T10:42:56.649+01:002016-01-23T10:42:56.649+01:00I think thers two discussions here. One is about K...I think thers two discussions here. One is about KIC8462852 and a possible Dyson sphere. I dont beleive in this scenario. The idea of a sphere buildt around a sun to harvest its energy is not likely to happen. Where would they get all the material from? What would they use all that sun's energy for?? If those aliens living there are so smart builders, they would certainly use nature better. Nature tend to utilize the least amount of energy needed for every process. Not the opposite. They wouldnt use a whole star! They perhaps would use a whole Higgs particle! ;) I beleive KIC8462852 has a perfectly natural explanation. Perhaps a mix of big sunspots and close orbiting planetary debris.<br /><br />The other discussion is about using electromagnetic waves workingin light speed, for communicating with other species out there. I refer to what I wrote earlier. :-) <br /><br />As a SETI home user I wonder what happens to all data that is collected. How are the finds evaluated? What make a find interesting? A triplet perhaps or something elese. What is done to evaluate all data. Graphs?, manual eyeballing curves? What? And has there been any interesting finds what so ever? :) <br /><br />Until the humanity start behaving better to the planet earth and its inhabitants and their enviroment I think its better we stay alone in our corner of the universe.Ziggeman Artstationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11060329048755964402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-13170380711851288242016-01-16T18:21:42.646+01:002016-01-16T18:21:42.646+01:00If the SETI Project is still looking for intellige...If the SETI Project is still looking for intelligence that is actively seeking contact, then looking for a signal in the electromagnetic spectrum that would propagate the farthest without being absorbed (especially by hydrogen) and looking for a section that is otherwise fairly quiet would be a good idea, because the odds are, that's what the other intelligence did.<br />And gee, that's where we are mostly looking Everseekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05123007088242500607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-50110081813504850342016-01-05T16:11:12.546+01:002016-01-05T16:11:12.546+01:00Don't forget People who help SETI@Home researc...Don't forget People who help SETI@Home research!<br /><br />BONIC V.8 is being rolled out shortly & with this comes along the ability to decode for the first time other data from other Telescopes from around the world & not left to just The Arecibo Observatory any longer.<br /><br />The Update should be automatic & all v.7 will stop in due time, <b> Below is part of the Notice for them that have either missed it or still not seen it.</b><br /><br /><br />SETI@home version 8 has been released. This version finally gives us the ability to process data from multiple sources, including the Green Bank Telescope. That means we'll be ready for data from Breakthrough Listen when it's available.<br /><br /><br />We're releasing the versions for CPUs first. We'll release versions for graphics processing units (GPUs) and Android devices as they come available. We're releasing slowly so as not to overtax our download server. This update will happen automatically, unless you use a special version you got from another web site.<br /><br /><br />We've also made small changed to our science code to improve the Gaussian fitting routines. This means version 8 results are not compatible with version 7. So if you use a version of SETI@home you got from another site, or if you compile your own version, you'll need to get or build a version 8 application. I'm sure link will be made available in the Number Crunching forum.<br /><br /><br />GTood Luck People... Peace!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10240567948825588728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-3661286372497394312016-01-05T10:11:47.384+01:002016-01-05T10:11:47.384+01:00If the census is that the star is not destabilisin...If the census is that the star is not destabilising, as this phenomena has not been seen before and we have seen lots of stars. The next is for there to be attenuation from objects obstructing our view. The idea of cometary bodies does have a nice fit from the available observations but more data is needed.<br /><br />Maybe the next snapshot of the star will give more evidence to lead to a definitive conclusion.<br /><br />In the early days of astronomy when telescopes were pointed at Venus the planet remained clouded in mystery. So the conclusion was there must be dinosaurs there.<br /><br />This conclusion was arrived at from the following...<br /><br />Venus has clouds.<br />Must be lots of water vapour to make the clouds.<br />For that water the surface must be very wet<br />Swamp lands would exist is very wet conditions.<br />Dinosaurs used to live in swamps.<br /><br />Therefore. Venus is cloudy... There are dinosaurs. <br /><br />As far as alien civilisations go. I do hope they don't bother with us. As a species we do let ourselves down and I wouldn't want someone else to find out about it.<br /><br />PaulAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00353727851537642645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-10525577639084886472016-01-04T20:33:03.451+01:002016-01-04T20:33:03.451+01:00well, Paul Haynes...no, star can't produce 20%...well, Paul Haynes...no, star can't produce 20% dimming, unless it's destabilizing in a way we haven't seen before...so I'm pretty sure it's not destabilizing!<br /><br />on, Dryson Bennington...no you can't stop & release gravity as you'd pointed out...that would produce ripples in Space-time continuum...and even if such device exists in K2 or K3 civilization, I'm pretty sure they don't use it...'cause they wouldn't want to destabilize Space-time continuum that way!<br /><br />maybe they have a quantum-field communicator which instantly across space delivers information...some say it's even faster than light, even on some papers?!<br />but, surely...SETI scientist say that ATA might be too small receiver to catch signals from Tabby star!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02102490354050787377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-86815805917262603382016-01-03T22:52:43.568+01:002016-01-03T22:52:43.568+01:00@Jd West
I Totally get that & it's a pret...@Jd West<br /><br />I Totally get that & it's a pretty cool proposal, and why not! For me personally I've thought where maybe listening to the wrong type of energy, with ours being based upon radio waves etc. for some time now. <br />Maybe there are other forms of energy out there more suitable for communications that we've still not detected.<br /><br />However we need to grow up & fast before we start communicating with anything other than ourselves.<br /><br />Until then I'm ashamed to be Human! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10240567948825588728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-52435034219625790612016-01-03T21:46:38.877+01:002016-01-03T21:46:38.877+01:00I see we are thinking in a degree of the civilizat...I see we are thinking in a degree of the civilization on a planet from the comments as to communicating on a level of radio waves, I'm sure that is the most natural conclusion to come to but i like thinking outside the box to say, what if were looking at such an advance civilization that it's more than that,sure they have interstellar travel, the ability to travel through space by such modes as (worm holes) though theoretical but plausible, these beings are energy like we are and everything around us,could the link we are trying to make be on a different level of energy, suggesting maybe a look into different quantum theories to tap into a level of consciousnesses we have to discover to make that link. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17132747005880153369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-83007477445152455822016-01-03T15:22:17.801+01:002016-01-03T15:22:17.801+01:00We all could be wrong about type II civilization o...We all could be wrong about type II civilization or any of them for that matter.<br /><br />An Alien Race might see a type II civilization as something else altogether & on there scale we could already be a type 3 or so on.<br /><br />@Dryson Bennington<br /><br />You might also want to provide a paper? & what was it you called it, oh yes workings on your proposal ?<br /><br />!Sighs!<br /><br />Calm down man, I'm only taking p+ss, you left yourself open & I ....well couldn't resist lol<br /><br />Though I will admit, your idea does sound plausible.<br /><br />Pace to all for 2016 :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10240567948825588728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-34285198910119642902016-01-03T04:15:52.676+01:002016-01-03T04:15:52.676+01:00You might also want to provide some working and a ...You might also want to provide some working and a nice research paper on how electrons can be moved, energised and de-energised *without* creating radio waves and other photons. *That* would get you some respect.<br /><br />*sigh*<br /><br />How? Simply create a tunnel through space time where gravity does not interfere with the transmission process. It is said that right after the Big Bang information accelerated faster than the speed of light then something caused the information to travel at the speed of light. <br /><br />I know the Higgs-Boson is only theoretical but it would make sense to use the same process. What the particles are the give mass to a particle passing through a Higgs field is the particle that would in my opinion carry the information packet. The information packet would travel faster than the speed of light from the sending antenna where it would be coded to only interact with a particle of a certain type along its path of travel and at the receiving antenna. This would make the transfer of information encoded unless you knew how to use particles without to capture the Higgs particle with the information stored on it. Once at the receiver the Higgs particle would interact with a determined particle where mass is added to the particle. The particles with mass would then transfer the message by energizing (closing the circuit to allow electricity to travel) and de-energizing (opening the circuit to keep electricity from traveling) that would equate into ones and zero's that a computer would translate using Logic Gates into the civilizations written language. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11178092499007162476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-14038939929852649202016-01-03T03:59:07.277+01:002016-01-03T03:59:07.277+01:00Everyone assumes that a Level II civilization woul...Everyone assumes that a Level II civilization would use radio waves to communicate with. I think a level two II civilization might use gravity to communicate with since time is the only force that can affect gravity.<br /><br />Since gravity is basically ones and zero's to a computer an advanced civilization would be able to quantify information packets to interact with gravity and then transmit the information across time using gravity. <br /><br />We know that gravity affects light and can bend it but can light bend gravity? Gravity would therefore be the easiest and most cost effective method of communication for Type II civilizations. Using gravity to communicate means that a Type II civilization could send a message across time using the gravity of each planet to send a packet of information stored in gravity. Since gravity would be able to be controlled and directed the packet of information could be sent in any direction using a planets gravity thus allowing the information packet to be transmitted to a location in a planets gravity where an interaction would take place that would then direct that information packet to a new location in the gravity field until it was received by the recipients antenna array. I would have to think that a type II civilization would be able to communicate through gravity using quantum gravity or possibly the form of energy that was present before the Big Bang that for a moment allowed information to travel faster than the speed of light. <br /><br />Is gravity able to bend gravity? Does gravity interact with other forms of gravity much the same way that atoms interact with each to create new elements? Such a communication node within gravity itself being able to connect gravity together would create nodes of information exchange.<br /><br />After all Einstein said it was relative. If two atoms with similar characteristics are relative to each other and connect to create a new element and that those atoms create gravity the ability of gravity to have two similar characteristics relative to each other based on the atoms characteristics would also connect together. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11178092499007162476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-33513280966462907232016-01-03T03:52:12.802+01:002016-01-03T03:52:12.802+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11178092499007162476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-26359977483977074232016-01-03T03:21:43.983+01:002016-01-03T03:21:43.983+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11178092499007162476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-39637039393160356322016-01-02T22:17:37.888+01:002016-01-02T22:17:37.888+01:00How about a completely different approach on this....How about a completely different approach on this. <br /><br />What if it I s the star that is producing the flux problem?<br /><br />Is it possible for there to be so many star spots that it is affecting the output.<br /><br />Apologies for throwing out aliens as my first thought.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00353727851537642645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-7113101538995085442015-12-23T18:46:17.360+01:002015-12-23T18:46:17.360+01:00I agree. It wouldt. :)I agree. It wouldt. :)Ziggeman Artstationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11060329048755964402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-54660458513716064842015-12-19T16:47:06.031+01:002015-12-19T16:47:06.031+01:00It wouldt be good, if we get answer from another c...It wouldt be good, if we get answer from another civilization. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00866286673379397737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-46947073760727838362015-12-18T18:23:15.583+01:002015-12-18T18:23:15.583+01:00New interesting candidate.
http://www.sciencedail...New interesting candidate.<br /><br />http://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/04b1e2f4db5217a830f3fb9f7e5dc21d.htm<br /><br />if we redirect one Voyager probe...maybe it will be there AD 12000 ;)<br />But it could certainly be a job for the James Webb TelescopeZiggeman Artstationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11060329048755964402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-60329777610078654502015-12-14T04:02:25.845+01:002015-12-14T04:02:25.845+01:00@bob atcpu
You know pal, I also has issue's w...@bob atcpu<br /><br />You know pal, I also has issue's with the Arecibo Location a few days ago, I'll just have to collect as much data as I can for the DEVs.<br /><br />Also! oh hell, <br /><br />When JWST comes online, with-in a few month where going to find something amazing.<br />Well if she runs smoothly as planned.<br /><br />already logged the date into Livestream to watch it liftoff! <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10240567948825588728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-61406212874541899372015-12-14T03:00:55.529+01:002015-12-14T03:00:55.529+01:00keep the good work up Mike
my dedicated computer c...keep the good work up Mike<br />my dedicated computer crashed again due to over load of data from seti@home from Aricebo<br />2011yr frame time window 2nd computer and 2nd power supply just could NOT keep UP with the calculation density.<br />ok I have to just deal with the asteroids@home data when i get the system up and running again.<br /><br />When the James Webb telescope is up and running more data will come in on KIC <br /><br />cheers! thanks for your blog Mike you got a great site!! bob atcpuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12965092658815771613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-12797895131550041312015-12-14T01:44:47.001+01:002015-12-14T01:44:47.001+01:00@Robert Kiser
Devolved? & Speculation?
Then ...@Robert Kiser<br /><br /><b>Devolved? & Speculation?</b><br /><br />Then I've news for you Sir.<br /><br />That's what Science is all about, well maybe not the devolved part lol, Though the speculation almost positively yes, because that's all Science is, is Best Guess & nothing more.<br /><br /><br />If threads & forums & departments etc. like this never existed, then I dare say we’d still be living in fear of being strung up & burnt at the stake for suggesting such idea’s.<br /><br /><br />I don’t mean to be rude, though I’m a tell it as it is kind of guy & your either upset with all the emails you’re getting Robert everyday on this topic & decided that’s it. <br /><br /><br />Even though I’m new myself to this group, I’ve had a look and I can’t seem to find one comment from you anyway. Though like I say I’m prepaid to be wrong, that’s all your getting lol<br /><br /><br />Speculation forms new paths to new people who may just have an idea of how to use such a speculated idea. You see there called Dreamers Sir, and without Dreamers we’d still be living in caves.<br /><br /><br />I’m Proud to be a dreamer and one with crazy insane thoughts & dreams & not to mention Speculations on what might be, or what will happen if I did this or that, Science is full of danger & speculation & that’s how new Technology, your mobile phone & computer not to mention TV sets all that seems you take for granted Sir. <br /><br />If you would kindly indulge me and just read this, please. on speculation!<br /><br />This is what Speculation Means.. I'm deferentially amonugst other here, I'd like to call mates=(English Term) so don't worry Guys ok.lmao <br /><br /><b>Anyway This is what is said about speculation</b><br /><br />1.The forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence<br />2."there has been widespread speculation that he plans to quit" ·<br />3."this is pure speculation on my part" · "these are only speculations"Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10240567948825588728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-54828878864761089962015-12-14T00:29:23.568+01:002015-12-14T00:29:23.568+01:00Unsubscribing from this thread as it has devolved ...Unsubscribing from this thread as it has devolved into a lot of speculation, but no new ideas. It's great to suggest that alien civilizations might exist, or that they might use advanced technologies that we can't even imagine today, but science requires us to do the hard work of "coloring inside the lines", and use what we know, not what we might imagine.<br /><br />Since the initial reports on KIC8462852 were publicized, there have been several new papers about the same star. Has anyone here bothered to read them?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05014655226898255675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-5707077465690038652015-12-14T00:25:32.293+01:002015-12-14T00:25:32.293+01:00for which reason they would need solar energy in a...for which reason they would need solar energy in a such amount, which would need an extraordinary investment in time and energy, whether nuclear fusion is much more feasibleAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11020542030938333238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-68218966467231817232015-12-13T23:53:22.993+01:002015-12-13T23:53:22.993+01:00I am convinced that there must be a civilization b...I am convinced that there must be a civilization based on phylum Insecta or buggers. was a fluke on our planet the emergence of mammals in such advanced degree. in being so, and if the case in question, as one would imagine insect civilization needing absurd amounts of energy.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11020542030938333238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-4890246998870256472015-12-12T21:08:48.659+01:002015-12-12T21:08:48.659+01:00Not sure if anyone has said this already I read th...Not sure if anyone has said this already I read the comments but don't recall this being there. <br /><br />What if this civilisation (if this is a Dyson swarm) isn't broadcasting because it has now died out? They could have ended up destroying themselves, maybe an accident or war or any number of different ways. Perhaps if this is a Dyson swarm, it is all that is left of a once great civilisation.pbillaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12790610924186712992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-52306246325780488582015-12-12T03:21:28.803+01:002015-12-12T03:21:28.803+01:00@Luka Marinović
SETI think they already could hav...@Luka Marinović<br /><br />SETI think they already could have tons of data showing intelligent forms of singles, though our computing power isn’t just that powerful enough.<br />This is why where all here, I’d say 80% of us Run the SETI@Home project via BOINC program so we can help decode all this data, though were still years behind, I think were not even a quarter way trough. (Sadly) but their very well good be a single maybe, YOU are decoding right this second that will change everything, who knows.<br /><br /><br /><br />@Douglas Sangster<br /><br />I’ve often thought about dark energy / Dark matter as a form of sub-space <br />(if you will) which could possibly be used for communications or wait for it, a form of Propulsion for ships, one day, maybe.<br /><br />Either way, I’ve always said, If I live to see a Manned Mars landing, I’ll be happy<br /><br /><br />Now I’m grow up, To hear there’s other lifeforms out there just like us & not like us, Then I know I’ll Die Happy <br /><br />(If I had a few naked hot women around me at the time also, co on, not all of us can leave that out lol.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10240567948825588728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8409319405782880759.post-8775953880850280632015-12-12T01:17:41.183+01:002015-12-12T01:17:41.183+01:00I hope the effect to the star will come again. I t...I hope the effect to the star will come again. I think a civilization has something like our electromagnetic-plasma-shield against the solar wind. The reason for, that there is no radio communication could be, that it is a machine-civilization and they have a direct connection or communicate with lightwaves OR they really discovered the overlight communication about a timesynchron-particle and we just dont know how it works but the higher civilizations arround us can use it. lets observe it for years and we will maybe see.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937529775068108882noreply@blogger.com